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Question by MT2: Why do Liberals think that spending more money on K-12 Education gets better results?
Let me start off by saying, I grew up in Detroit and attended Detroit Public Schools so this is a subject I am intimately familiar with, so before you Liberals begin your knee jerk cries of racism I also come from a mixed race/ethnicity family.

First let me point out that not ALL inner city schools are bad, My High School was Davis Aerospace Tech where upon graduation you received your High School Diploma and your Airframes and Power Plants License or Avionics License and if you were in the top 10% you also received your Private Pilots License.

http://www.davisaerospace.org/default.htm

However the sad fact is there is no correlation between the amount of money spent per student and the odds of that child either succeeding or failing.

Here are cities that have a graduation rate above 70% and how much they spend per student:

Jan Jose, CA ? ,473 ? 77% Graduate
San Francisco, CA ? ,844 ? 73.1% Graduate
Nashville, TN ? ,160 ? 77% Graduate
Colorado Springs, CO ? ,011 ? 76% Graduate
Tuscon, AZ ? ,941 ? 71.7% Graduate
Mesa, AZ ? ,558 ? 77.1% Graduate

Here are the cities with graduation rates BELOW 50% and what they spent per student:

New York, NY ? ,455 ? 45.2% Graduate
Indianapolis, IN ? ,428 ? 30.5% Graduate
Detroit, MI ? ,529 ? 24.9% Graduate
Cleveland, OH ? ,157 ? 34.1% Graduate
Los Angeles, CA ? ,647 ? 45.3% Graduate
Dallas, TX ? ,604 ? 44.4% Graduate
Denver, CO ? ,905 ? 46.3% Graduate
Oakland, CA ? ,756 ? 45.6% Graduate
Baltimore, MD ? ,707 ? 34.6% Graduate
Columbus, OH ? ,762 ? 40.9% Graduate
Miami, FL ? ,322 ? 49% Graduate
Kansas City, MO ? ,402 ? 45.7% Graduate
Oklahoma City, OK ? ,860 ? 47.5% Graduate

The surprising thing you will see is while San Fransico is across the bridge from Oakland and Oakland is spending MORE they have a 27.5% LOWER graduation rate!

Though Denver spends MORE and is right down the road from Colorado Springs, Denver has a 29.7% LOWER graduation rate!

Maybe places like Detroit should think more about buying books for kids than they do about having chauffer driven limousines for School Board Members.

http://www.mackinac.org/article.aspx?ID=665

And maybe Los Angeles should concern itself more with buying computers than building the two most expensive schools in the entire country!
Belmont Learning Center ? 0,000,000.00

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Belmont+Learning+Center

and only a few blocks away is the 0,000,000.00 Roybal Learning Center

http://laist.com/2008/10/19/the_most_expensive_high_school_in_l.php

The fact is it is improper spending of the money that is really the root cause! Why would you spend 0,000,000.00 on a high School that only 45.3% of the 2,100 students will ever graduate from?

Let?s say you take 525 freshman each year that means 238 of them will actually graduate and over the course of 10 years that means a grand total of 2380 students divide the cost of the building per student during the first 10 years and that is 8,067.23 and you haven?t even paid a teacher or bought a book THAT?S JUST THE BUILDING!!!

The fact is that Idaho where I live now spends LESS than 00.00 per student and 83% graduate! Utah spends the least in the entire nation and 83% graduate! We MUST begin to spend the money wisely not simply demand more money be spent.

As a nation we spent over twice the amount (Inflation Adjusted) on a per student basis in 2004 that we did in 1970 yet reading scores have remained FLAT!

Zaphod: So what you are saying is it doesn?t matter how much is spent or how the money is spent as long as we keep dumping more into it and the results never change it?s OK?.ARE YOU FRIGGIN? RETARDED?
Union: Oh I see?now I am distorting facts?OK well I provided all the links?please show me how spending more money results in either higher reading scores or higher graduation rates?please feel free to disprove me.
Forget War: Those that can do?those that can?t teach?I am busy doing.
Scrappy Doo: You claim there is a relation between money spent and the success rate of the children. I carefully laid out the data that disproves your theory, care to lay out some data and sources that disproves mine?
Richard: I own two businesses a Home/Business Security Business and a Media Buying Company. While your suggestion might seem plausable that spending less will not give a better result, I would argue that the facts don?t back up your assertion as the amount spent in general has no direct link to the rate of either graduation or reading ability.
Eclectic: OK, I am going to tell you what I tolkd Scrappy. I carefully laid out a case along with numerous links to charts, graphs and articles to back up my point with seems to completely disprove your point, so rather than calling me a ?Right Wing Propagandist? why don?t you show me some data that proves what you are saying?
NT: Yet the cost of living in Oakland is LOWER than San Francisco and while they recieve MORE money thay have a 27.5% LOWER graduation rate.

While Denver has a LOWER cost of living than Colorado Springs, Denver receives MORE money and has a 29.7% LOWER graduation rate.

So your theory of the whole ?Cost of Living? thing doesn?t really wash either.

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Answer by SuperMan
wow u lost me there.. cause they can

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